Hermes, Joseph Gerald, TSgt

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Last Rank
Technical Sergeant
Last Primary AFSC/MOS
27250-Air Traffic Control Operator
Last AFSC Group
Air Traffic Control
Primary Unit
1968-1971, 27250, Grand Forks Air Force Base
Service Years
1950 - 1971
Enlisted Collar Insignia
Technical Sergeant

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Home State
Minnesota
Minnesota
Year of Birth
1926
 
This Military Service Page was created/owned by Stuart Dahl-Historian to remember Hermes, Joseph Gerald (Jerry), TSgt USAF(Ret).

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WW II Honorable Discharge Pin


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US Air Force Honorable Discharge US Navy Honorable Discharge




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Last Known Activity
Retired from Active Duty in 1971, trained as a boiler engineer, and took work accordingly in Thief River Falls, MN, and Grand Rapids, MN.
   
Other Comments:
Jerry was the husband of my aunt Vicky (my mother's sister).

He was a quiet and respectful man, great inner strength, honorable and proper.


I am just beginning to enter data on his Remembrance Profile Page. He saved a bit of information, mostly DD-214's and some related documents. I am having some occasional trouble sorting thru the AF paperwork and/or correlating that to AFTWS, but am managing to sniff out a thing or two. As I become more familiar with both, I will probably be interfacing more with Admin and other members for assistance.

NOTE: Since I am unfamiliar with both the USAF and AFTWS, I have double-listed some of the assignment time periods showing both the unit and the AF Base he was assigned to. If this is not the way to do this, I will gladly accept corrective advice.
   
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  QUESTIONS from AF Form 7
   
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Last Updated:
Nov 30, 2012
   
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IN-SERVICE SCHOOLS:

Basic Training, 00010 ... 1955
Acft Landing Control Operator, 27232 ... 1956
ECI ATC Fundamentals ...1958
Leadership and Management (ECI) Crse 0005 ... 1961
Academic Instructor Course, ECI ... 1962
MGT for AF Supv ECI ... 1963
ATC Fund ECI Crse 2720A ... 1963
Morale and Ideology (ECI) Crse 0906 ... 1965

(note, not on AF Form 7: DD-214 covering a period that includes 1950 thru 1952 lists training for Air Police, Nov 50 - Dec 50, Tyndall Air Force Base, Florida.)


CHRONOLOGICAL LISTING OF SERVICE: (copied exactly as typed on form, incl. mis-spellings, my notes are added in italics)

9Jan46-31Mar47, F/1C, Fireman-AD (this is US Navy)

15Apr47-14Apr48, Pfc, Rifleman-RES (uncertain if this was Ready Reserve or Inactive, but crossed out data cites it as Minn. NG - Inactive)

4Oct50-12Sep53, A1C, Air Police-AD

(note, not on AF Form 7: DD-214 covering a period that includes 1950 thru 1952 lists duty assignment at: 2252D AFRCTC, Clinton County Air Force Base, Wilmington, OH.)

Continuous Active Duty From 25Oct55

25Oct55-24Oct59, A1C, GCA Opr-AD

25Oct59 / 27250B / GCA-ATC Opr (reenlisted) / 1277-2 AACS Det Duluth Muni Apt Minn (MATS) (note: AACS could be Army Airways Communications System)

25Sep60 / 27250B / ATC Opr / 1 AACS Sq Mbl Johnson AB Japan (MATS)

22Nov60 / 27250 / ATC Tech / 1 AACS Sq Mbl Johnson AB Japan (MATS)

1Jul61 / 27250 / ATC Tech - 1 Mbl Comm Sq Johnson AB Japan (AFCS) (Redesignated)

27Jul61 / 27250 / ATC Tech / 1 Mbl Sq Clark AB P I (AFCS)

10Oc61 / 27250 / ATC Tech 1 Mbl Comm Gp Clark AB P I (AFCS) (Redesignated)

17Jul62 / 27250B / ATC Oper / 1 Mlb Gp Clark AB P I (AFCS)

16Jan63 / 27250 / ATC Tech (732) / 2029 Comm Sq, Ellsworth AFB, SDak (AFCS)

16Jul65 / 27250 / Watch Supervisor (RAPCON) / 2029 Comm Sq, Ellsworth AFB, SDak (AFCS)

24Oct65 / 27250 Discharged SDN 900 PAR 12 AFR 39-10 / 2029 Comm Sq, Ellsworth AFB, SDAK (AFCS)

25Oct65 / 27250 / Watch Supervisor (RAPCON) Reenlisted / 2029 Comm Sq, Ellsworth AFB, SDAK (AFCS)

27Feb67 / 27250 / ATC Tech / 2165 Comm Sq, Taipei AS, Taiwan (AFCS)

(note, not on AF Form 7: completed his USAF Service at Grand Forks AFB, ND)

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My notes cited above are included in italics

Question: I am confused as to why basic Training is listed as having been in 1955, unless he had broken Air Force service and was required to go through it again ... there is a gap in assignment listings 0n the AF Form7 between 1953 & 1955.

Question: I am uncertain about these acronyms shown on the Assignment Listings above:

AACS - ? Probably Army Airways Communication System?
[answer to above provided by MSgt Robert Abblett, USAF (Ret'd) :"AACS stands for airways and air communications squadron. They were a part of MATS and a tenent organization on the air bases. I knew Joe at Duluth as I was an electronics repairman 1959 through 1964. The 1277-2 Det home squadron was at KI Sawyer AFB Michigan." posted in a tribute on 9 Nov 2012]
AFCS - ?
[from Wikipedia, AFCS is Air Force Communications Service, the redesignation of AACS, Air and Airways Communication Squadron (formerly the Army Air Communication Service). It later became AFCC, Air Force Communications Command.]
AFRCTC - ?
ECI - ? Probably Extension Course Institute?
GCA - ?
MATS - ?
RAPCON - ?

Question: Is it accepted practice on AFTWS to display both the unit a person was assigned to and the base (under a separate assignment)?

Question: Is there an info source that will help me identify the locations (bases) of some of his schools, such as Basic Training and Acft Landing Control Operator?

Question: Under the school, Acft Landing Control Operator, a five digit number is listed, but it does not seem to be affiliated with his MOS, does anyone know what this number is identifying, is it perhaps a class or course number?

Question: Is it normal for an Airman to change occupation from something like 27250 to 27250B and then back? What would be the reason for that: personal choice, assignment requirement, other?

   
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