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Year of Birth 1938 |
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This Remembrance Profile was originally created by Maj Elza Hisel - Deceased
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Contact Info
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Last Address 7408 Spring Village Dr Apt 308 Springfield VA 22150
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Date of Passing Sep 26, 2018 |
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Last Known Activity:
Finally trying to get settled in my new digs. Moving has got more difficult over the years. Had a great trip to Germany taking my son, his wife, and the 8 and 9 yr old grandsons. Waiting for some more decent weather to get out for some golf.
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1957-1957, 20230, Air Force Security Service Command (USAFSS)
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1957-1960, 20250, 6901st Special Communications Group
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1957-1960, 6901st Special Communications Group
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1960-1961, 20430, 496th Reconnaissance Technical Squadron
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1961-1963, 20450, 4128th Strategic Wing
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1963-1963, 20470, 461st Bombardment Wing, Heavy
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1963-1965, 20450, 17th Bombardment Wing, Heavy
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1965-1965, 20450, 4200th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing
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1965-1966, 20470, 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing
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1967-1967, 20470, Defense Language Institute West (Staff)
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1968-1969, 20470, 6499th Special Activities Group
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1970-1971, 20470, Air Force Air Intelligence Training Center (Staff)
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1971-1972, 20490, Air Force Air Intelligence Training Center (Staff)
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1973-1973, 8051, Air Force Air Intelligence Training Center (Staff)
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1973-1975, 8054, 2nd Bombardment Wing, Heavy
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1975-1978, 8086, 40th Tactical Group
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1978-1979, 8th Tactical Fighter Wing - Wolf Pack
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1979-1981, 8054, Foreign Technology Division, Air Force Systems Command (AFSC)
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1981-1984, 8024, Pacific Special Activities Area
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1984-1985, 8024, HQ European Special Activities Area, Air Force Special Activities Center
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1985-1987, 8016, Detachment 14, HQ European Special Activities Area
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1987-1989, 8024, Air Force Special Activities Center, Air Force Intelligence Service
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Reflections on Maj Hisel's
US Air Force Service
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TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WHAT INFLUENCED HIS/HER DECISION TO JOIN THE AIR FORCE?
The draft, dissatisfaction with my job and the fact that my buddy wanted to join the service. He joined the Navy but I didn't want to spend all my time overseas so I joined the Air Force and went to Germany the next year while he went to Memphis!
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TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, PLEASE DESCRIBE THE DIRECTION OR PATH HE/SHE TOOK IN HIS/HER MILITARY SERVICE. WHERE DID THEY GO FOR BASIC TRAINING AND WHAT UNITS, BASES OR SQUADRONS WERE THEY ASSIGNED TO? WHAT WAS HIS/HER REASON FOR LEAVING?
After tech school I was transferred to Germany. I got married two years later and Security Service kicked me out because they pulled my special access clearance so the Air Force awarded me a different AFSC. I was still in intelligence, but in a billet that didn't require tech school or Special Access clearance. After seven assignments I ended up back at the Intelligence School as an instructor. All the instructors in my section were going to night school, so I started taking courses again as well. I soon completed enough hours to apply for the AF Bootstrap Commissioning program and I got accepted about four months before the age cutoff. I completed the program and after commissioning went through Intelligence Officer's course and then on to Barksdale as 2nd Lt. After five more assignments and lots of night school I finished my Masters degree, which at the time was an unwritten requirement for promotion, and eventually made Major. On my next assignment after that promotion I was at headquarters and decided it was time to retire. During my career I held a total of 11 ranks, 7 enlisted and 4 commissioned, and I spent a total of more than 32 years in the intelligence field, I had assignments in each phase of Intelligence.
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IF HE/SHE PARTICIPATED IN ANY MILITARY OPERATIONS, INCLUDING COMBAT, HUMANITARIAN AND PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS, TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, PLEASE DESCRIBE THOSE YOU FEEL WERE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TO HIM/HER AND, IF LIFE-CHANGING, IN WHAT WAY.
No, not in a Vietnam definition. My combat experience consisted of three tours with B-52s (D,E,G models) and two with F-4s (C,D models) as nuclear deterrent forces hopefully never having to employ! As an intelligence collection unit in Southeast Asia we were considered direct support to the battle effort and were awarded the VSM.
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FROM THEIR ENTIRE MILITARY SERVICE, DESCRIBE ANY PERSONAL MEMORIES, YOU MAY BE AWARE OF, WHICH IMPACTED HIM/HER THE MOST.
This was my most difficult answer, however, the most memorable was the JFK 5 o'clock news conference for the Cuban missile crisis. I was working in the alert facility that day and the front office told everyone including the aircrews that we were to gather in the TV room for the 5 o'clock news. That was JFK's speech on drawing the line in the sand that started the showdown. It was a very busy couple of weeks and we dealt with all the numerous changes that were brought about. We were on the front line just a half step behind DEFCON I and the threat of a WWIII. We even had a hangar queen on the line. The feeling was that if it had to, it would fly. Memories of lots of individual events that happened during the period with our knowledge that what SAC was showing was the deciding factor for the Russion ships to turn around! One example, our aircrews flying Chrome Dome (northern tier airborne alert) said that the sky across the Northern tier was B-52 upon B-52 lined up nose to tail as far as you could see.
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OF ALL THE MEDALS, AWARDS, FORMAL PRESENTATIONS AND QUALIFICATION BADGES HE/SHE RECEIVED, WHICH WERE THE MOST MEANINGFUL TO HIM/HER AND WHY?
N/A
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IF KNOWN, PLEASE LIST ANY INDIVIDUAL(S) FROM HIS/HER TIME IN THE MILITARY WHO STOOD OUT AS HAVING THE MOST POSITIVE IMPACT ON THEM AND WHY?
My answer to this question is also difficult since there was really no 'one' person. I had some 16 assignments in more than 32 years with many outstanding supervisors and fellow workers. I had one overseas assignment in Hawaii that lasted 37 months with the same unit. All the rest were shorter including 12 months in Kunsan, 21 months at Beale, 12 months at Monterrey, 17 months and a 22 month tour at Wright-Patt (2 organizations), and 12 months at Vogelweh.
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IF HE/SHE SURVIVED MILITARY SERVICE, WHAT PROFESSION(S) DID HE/SHE FOLLOW AFTER DISCHARGE?
My first objective after completing active duty was survival. I retired in Aug of 1989 with over 32 years intelligence experience. The wall (Berlin & the WP) came down and no one needed intelligence troops anymore. Contract money got tight, therefore intelligence positions got tight. So I settled for temp work while I searched for more permanent employment and I eventually signed on as a "Kelly Girl" doing word processing. The pay was not great but it paid the bills. As a side note this actually turned out to be a great transition job to civilian work. On one of my assignments I ended up with MITRE and after almost a year one of their staff quit to move to Pennsylvania. The vacancy was to write training programs for a new system MITRE was designing for the FAA. I told my boss, the Division Chief, that I was qualified for that position and that I had been an instructor in previous years. He told me to submit my resume which I did and landed the job. The job changed over time, but I ended up spending over 10 years with MITRE. I was fortunate in that some of my Air Force experience had functions that were usable with air traffic control.
Now I am enjoying what I refer to as "retired, retired, retired" from my major careers. I now spend my time playing with my young grandsons one afternoon a week and I play golf on average three days a week. Friday is my house cleaning and shopping day and the weekends are for going to eat Chesapeake Bay crabs in season.
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IF KNOWN, WHAT MILITARY ASSOCIATIONS WAS HE OR SHE A MEMBER OF, IF ANY? ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC BENEFITS THEY DERIVED FROM THEIR MEMBERSHIPS?
I don't participate with any military associations, when I retired I essentially divorced myself from the military for all intents and purposes, there was no work available in my field (intelligence) so I devoted myself into my civilian career and never really got involved with Associations to any extent.
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IF HE/SHE SURVIVED MILITARY SERVICE, IN WHAT WAYS DO YOU BELIEVE HIS/HER SERVING IN THE MILITARY INFLUENCED THE WAY THEY APPROACHED THEIR PERSONAL LIFE, FAMILY LIFE AND CAREER?
My almost 33 years in the Air Force was most of my adult life and career. I essentially had two careers in the Air Force with over 16 years as both an Enlisted man and an Officer, followed by 11 years at MITRE. The multitude of assignments and the lack of any formal training taught me to be flexible. It also taught me to be a 'can do' person. Most of my career my offices were small and understaffed so I always tried to do things more simply. I asked my troops to use the same philosophy and over the years I developed a lot of short cuts. I always felt that unless I was told not to do something, I could do it which allowed new ideas to be developed.
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IF THEY WERE HERE TODAY, WHAT ADVICE DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE WOULD GIVE TO THOSE WHO FOLLOWED IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS AND RECENTLY ENTERED MILITARY SERVICE?
Hang in there! I would urge anyone who is currently serving to be sure to take advantage of all the training that's available, you never know when it might be useful for you in the future.
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HOW EFFECTIVE HAS TOGETHERWESERVED.COM BEEN IN HELPING YOU RECORD YOUR REMEMBERED PERSONS MILITARY SERVICE? DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE?
TWS has been a great place to refresh old memories. I have so far met one person I actually worked with, and one that worked down the hall from me on my first assignment. But, many of the stories and postings are the same as my experiences during similar times during my careers. I have developed several friends (wingmen) from the group. I have found that the members of TWS are a most thoughtful and considerate group of folks. That is so very reminiscent of my years in the Air Force. It's like reading a good book, so interesting that you can't put it down!
Published in TWS "Voices" August 1, 2010
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